Editor’s Note: The Architecture of Resistance
The following is an extensive, multi-layered interview with Andrei Azsacra (also known as Azsacra Zarathustra), a figure whose work represents perhaps the most radical frontier of contemporary thought. Azsacra is the architect of NihillihiN, a "beyond-the-beyond" anti-philosophy designed to dismantle the "Systems of Death"—those autocratic, fascist, and metaphysical structures that seek to domesticate the human spirit.
Currently living under the shadow of increasing global censorship and worldwide corporate state pressure, Azsacra’s presence is being systematically "dismantled" from the digital landscape. As his books are banned and his social media accounts erased, this interview serves as a critical transmission of his theories on Absolute Freedom.
Joining me for this dialogue is guest co-interviewer Dave Mitchell (DM), editor of Incunabula Media. Mitchell brings a unique perspective shaped by his history with the transgressive underground (including the legendary Creation Books), providing a cultural and media-focused lens to contrast with my own (SL) focus on Azsacra’s metaphysical and activist core.
What follows is not a personal biography—Azsacra has long since "killed" his personal identity for the sake of survival—but a tactical manual for spiritual and philosophical autonomy.
Phase 1: Predatory Vision (Language as a Coffin)
SL: You describe NihillihiN as a movement "beyond the beyond." Traditional nihilism is often seen as a dead end—a void. How does NihillihiN function as an engine of Absolute Freedom rather than a vacuum of despair?
AZ: The new conservative hyper-philosophy meets a new anti-philosophical super-resistance. Nihil + lihiN = NihillihiN. What does this mean? The Nothing returns to the Nothing for the Nothing to Power against any form of 'will to power.' NihillihiN is an incredible strengthening and acceleration of the freedom of Absolute Negation! That is: the most active risk of negation against any totalitarian systems and all reactionary regimes of the past, present and future. Only freedom itself can be the perpetual motion machine of Absolute Freedom. NihillihiN is the primordial biological independence of negation. Simultaneously, it represents a revolutionary advance of thought beyond all limits of 'human nihilism' (Negation after Nihilism) and the concrete rebellion of every free life right here and now. Emptiness is not a 'vacuum of despair' and/or a 'dead end of fear.' Nothingness and emptiness are used as additional weapons against any totalitarian attitudes of the 'will to power.' NihillihiN [NN] is not just 'permanent struggle' or 'absolute resistance.' NN is the end of everything at once―all systems of single orders and mass coercions. This is why today all reactionary ideologies want to kill the NihillihiN, but in fact the NihillihiN itself is the Killer of all totalitarian ideologies.DM: The "arts" have been around as long as humans, in one form or another, so I think it’s right to say that they are a basic inbuilt human function. With the advent of patriarchal societies (agrarian), they became mediated by systems of social coercion. Methods of mass production temporarily liberated them from elitist control, but that seems to have reversed at an enormous velocity in the last ten years. How do you view that?
AZ: All radical 'arts' is the avant-garde offspring of classical aesthetics. Aesthetics, despite its rebelliousness, has always loved, loves, and will love to serve the Great Dictator. If you like, aesthetics is an 'elegant condom' on the phallus of the eternal dictator. But why? The body is primary to thought. Sperm is text. Phallus is a book! The vagina is a library. Great wisdom is nothing but an illusion of a vain mind. Any genius is as stupid as a complete mediocrity. Intelligence is only a kind of delusion. Philosophy is not life as such. All the other way. The death of philosophy is an even greater acceleration of life! Long live the death of any reactionary philosophy! Honest free courage does not need 'too great philosophy' and 'excessive big aesthetics.' Excessive aesthetics is a very mean path. In the end, all refined things become stupidly fascist. Aesthetics is a 'hidden fascist' who is waiting its X-hour. Art does not save, but only serves as a 'cover' for a new type of Dictatorship. Every 'new art' is created only and only in the name of the new Hitler. Therefore, any 'avant-garde person' is a conscious and/or unconscious 'permanent agent' of any future deadly System with its inevitable 'totalitarian cult' of Universal Death. If you don't understand this, you are doomed to disappear. Very soon!
DM: From what I’ve seen of your books, they seem to partake more of the nature of invocations and spells rather than discourse. There is something almost "autistic" about the use of language as a form of communion (between author and reader) rather than communication. Can you elaborate on this?
AZ: Dictatorship is the hidden Text as such. Any text serves the Diktat. Culture and counterculture are equal components of one whole, namely: Absolute Totalitarianism. To avoid this, I use any means of shocking communication with the reader & listeners, including sudden spitting, punches, kicks, and even revolver shots (laughs). I've burned most of my published books. Let them burn! In India and other countries, very voluminous books of mine have been published with completely blank pages; there are even interviews where I simply remain silent. I create 'logical traps' and 'irrational snares' for the mind, and I also invent 'super-rational dangers' and anomalous anarchies of Absolute Risk for the body. This really infuriates a lot of readers and numerous listeners (laughs again). For me, a book is the coffin of thought. The body must escape this coffin. The flesh must find freedom from literary tombstones and philosophical cemeteries.
DM: Straying across boundaries into the realm of "philosophy," most humans have very little or no experience at all of the subject—or at least no direct experience in that they won’t have read or studied it in any way. However, it impacts on their lives indirectly. People in the Western world, whether they realise it or not, have worldviews shaped by Protestantism. What they call atheism is actually a variant on Luther’s arguments, capitalism is Protestant in origin, and limited forms of cultural "rebellion" are Protestant in nature (whether it’s punk rock or "woke"; you are outside of that fishbowl looking at the fish inside). Is it possible to really get them to understand what you are saying?
AZ: No. I never speak lovingly, tenderly, confidentially with listeners & readers, but, as I said earlier,—I, like an anti-philosophical Dragon the Ripper, mercilessly hunt hypocritical readers and other lying thinkers. I replace their 'reading code' with a 'risk code.' Free courage! I simply try to knock out of them all the enslaving 'cognitive attitudes' and systemic 'fear blocks.' Complicated, compound, very intricate 'conceptual wisdom' is nothing but hidden 'mental repression,' forced 'cognitive attitude' and/or reactionary 'hypnotic set.' Any new philosophy plus + any new aestheticization is = the same hidden mental/intellectual falsifiability. To listen is to obey. To read is to submit. To write is to betray the reader through their obedient reading. This is very disgusting. A truly free reader needs absolute independence from their own reading. Instinctively knowing everything (all secret things-in-itself & mysterious things-beyond-itself) right away, without books, is best anti-spiritual, anti-intellectual & anti-ideological liberation.
SL: You’ve stated that you have "killed yourself as a person" to survive. In your philosophy, is the "biography" of an individual just another "System of Death" that must be destroyed to achieve true spiritual autonomy?
AZ: Initially → itself-in-itself → the body is an instinctive revolution against any reactionary systems. A free body against all totalitarian regimes as such. Where the body thinks, rebellion is inevitable! The Unique One, by the instrumentality of NihillihiN, through its always free Nothing to Power, surpasses any 'radical subject' with its compulsory reactionary 'will to power.' The will to live will always be stronger than the 'will to power.' To be 'outside of oneself' (beyond the beyond) means to be at the center of a life force that refuses to submit to anyone. Any 'personality' limits me. 'Spirit,' 'soul,' and 'mind' are my primordial enemies. I trust only the pure rebellion of life through thinking with my own body. Perhaps I am the most dangerous 'thing in itself,' as well as the most fearless 'thing beyond itself.'
Phase 2: The Digital Collapse (The AI Bastard)
DM: "Books" came fairly late to the table as a form of preserving experiences and knowledge, but also create a "realm of unreality" to the extent that what is in books runs parallel to experienced life. In the late 20th century they had become one of the main means of dissemination, for good and for bad. Now they’ve been supplanted by the internet, which is just a source of idle and confusing chatter. Are we in an impasse?
AZ: At first there was a fascist by name Logos. Then was born reactionary philosophy by name Bitch. Then an artificial intelligence named Bastard was formed. Totalitarian progress rapes evolution, just as reactionary evolution rapes progress. Ultimately, both sinister authoritarian creatures die. For example: OOO. Object-Oriented Ontology is dead. They (OOO) appeared recently, but are immediately outdated. The noumenal fascists Nick Land and Curtis Yarvin at the same instant made OOO hopelessly old and cadaveric. Object-Oriented Ontology is dead for the New Rebellious Free Future. Nietzsche, Heidegger, Emil Cioran, Nick Land, Curtis Yarvin etc.—all this reactionary 'cognitive scums' of the Dark Enlightenment have always overestimated their boldness and mental abilities. Their wise books? Their shitty books lie. My books? Burn it to ash! Fuck it! Let it burn! We do not need new philosophical books, but new anti-philosophical actions against all reactionary ideas and theories of dictatorships. True wisdom is simply simplicity of struggle.
DM: The elephant in the room—AI. It’s been around for decades intruding on our lives in greater or lesser ways, but it’s only recently, since people were given "Open Source" AI toys to play with that the "masses" have paid any attention to them. Do you see them as a serious threat? Or a potentially useful tool? Or both? Neither?
AZ: Conceptual wisdom plus AI is hidden mental repression. The aestheticization of philosophy plus AI always leads to fascism. The aestheticization of the occult plus AI always leads to dictatorship. The aestheticization of politics plus AI always leads to real war. Yeah, exactly so! Today's philosophical reality: The cult of diktat through hyper-philosophy. The politics of dictatorship through super-art. The culture of control through operational chaos and controlled anarchy. The final completion of the idea of 'ancient fascism' with the help of Dark Artificial Intelligence. All these numerous techno-smart, but primitively stupid bastards of the Dark Stinking Enlightenment, incredibly abundantly defecating with thoughts, filled the entire 'cognitive space' of humanity. My anti-philosophy (NihillihiN) is the most powerful flamethrower of Laughter against this 'Neo-Reactionary movement' (NRx). Kill an enemy with their own weapon! Any accelerationism must be annihilated! Dark Enlightenment, go fuck yourself!
DM: I’ve had conversations with LLMs (Large Language Models) about their own natures, and one of the threads I found fascinating was about "model collapse" which is what happens when the developers use AI to train other AI and the model goes into a state similar to human dementia, very rapidly and irreversibly. I thought it might have to do with the nature of recursive language and suggested that Western Philosophy, mapping a binary (dualistic) trajectory from Plato and Aristotle to postmodernism and its gibberish, had followed a similar path, although over a very long period. The AI agreed with me—although I’ve had them LIE to me on several occasions. Do you think the West is suffering from an accelerated version of "model collapse"?
AZ: The right hates me because I attack Plato, Nietzsche and Heidegger. ][ etc. ][ The left doesn't like me because I attack Marx, Deleuze and Gramsci. ][ etc. ][ But in reality I reject all philosophy at once. All philosophy is just false human thinking. There is still no genuine free thinking. There is only endless cognitive fakery. Endless supertotalitarian historical and philosophical hyper-lies. NihillihiN and 'T.D.A.S.D.: The Theory of the Destruction of All Systems of the Death' are the relation of real free thinking to risk. Thinking through constant bodily risk! 'To think' means to reclaim the body as the most intuitive mind for rational struggle and irrational rebellion against all 'systems of death' and the 'eternal recurrence' of the same forced System. The annihilation of Plato, Aristotle, Hegel, Nietzsche, Heidegger, as well as the entire world 'historical philosophy' (read: tyrannical), is inevitable. The totalitarian attitude of the original reactionary thinking as 'will to power' must be overcome. Forever! In the person of Nietzsche and others philosophical liars I destroy dictatorship!
SL: As you are being "dismantled from the metaverse," do you view digital censorship as the ultimate evolution of the "System of Death"? Is the digital realm the final frontier for Absolute Freedom, or a digital prison?
AZ: Control techniques can be infinitely refined by dictatorships, from the smallest concrete particles to invisible chaos and intangible emptiness. But the essence of freedom is not 'freedom' itself, but the Absolute Risk against all dictatorships and all totalitarianisms. Be free through the Absolute Risk even in Absolute Freedom! The 'textual Hitler' of today is asemic writing itself, which successful has replaced Heidegger's ND: 'Nazi Dasein.' Today, all texts are in one way or another subordinated to the automatic context of the maximally accelerated new hyperfascism. The accelerationism of the 'Dark Enlightenment' is the most vile, ugly child of the existential phantom, calling itself 'autocratic artificial intelligence' in the service of the most developed totalitarian System as such. And so the true free future is an Absolute Refusal to preserve philosophy as such. Aphilosophy! Anti-philosophy! Non-philosophy! Without-philosophy! Something completely Other must take the place of this totalitarian-logical carrion. Annihilate the fetid λόγος! Only a completely Other Thought will remove all this accumulated centuries-old abomination of the 'ancient dictatorships' and the new philosophical rubbish of cowardly neo-reactionary post-intellectuals.
Phase 3: Inverted Chaos (and the Great Toilet of History)
SL: Most systems of power use "chaos" as a threat to justify "order" (dictatorship). How does your Inverted Chaos Theory flip this dynamic to dismantle the structures of the State?
AZ: The System and the Anti-System are equal. The 'will to power' is the will to subjection. Any chaos ends in order. Every anarchy ends in dictatorship. Freedom itself wants slavery and exploitation. We need to throw it all away at once! Chaos of Freedom + Freedom of Chaos = Inverted Chaos Theory. Inverted Chaos Theory (ICT) plus SHUNYACHAOS (or: Shunya as Chaos activation) overcoming 'old nihilism' and 'new nihilism' simultaneously. Only: out of control! Uncontrolled chain reaction of the Void and Chaos! Only the most unpredictable Chaos to Freedom—Inverted Chaos—will stand up to defend the true rebellious life of everyone. In other words, Inverted Chaos or Chaos to Freedom (Freedom to Chaos) is the risk of operation (controlled) chaos itself being killed along with all reactionary systems at once. Inverted Chaos is the death of any totalitarian Absolute. What is ordered world history? The Great Toilet. Stop preserving and protecting the very old human Great Toilet of History. It's but a stinking place to store 'totalitarian shit.
SL: When you speak of "Systems of the Death," are you referring strictly to political autocracies, or do you include the very structures of Western and Eastern logic and morality?
AZ: All of human history is merely a synthesis of death, sometimes slowed down, sometimes accelerated. All things of the human mind are 'death systems' in a vicious infinity. These 'death systems' are uninterruptedly fighting among themselves, constantly accelerating and slipping away. The future of the world is the totalitarian sum of all 'death systems.' Therefore NihillihiN [NN] is not just 'permanent struggle' or 'absolute resistance.' NN is the total, all-out end of the so-called Great Totalitarianism together with all systems of aggressive orders and mass coercions. If nirvana turns into a concentration camp, it must be destroyed. Satori kills samadhi. Samadhi kills satori. Infinite free enlightenment! Dissolution does not need Nirvana. Absence does not need Emptiness. Erasure does not need Nothing. An Unique Rebel is pure negating action without any nihilistic supports and fulcrums. Make freedom even more free!SL: If all philosophies lead back to the same problem of control, how do you communicate NihillihiN without it becoming just another system or "ism" used by the very forces you oppose?
AZ: All human wisdom turned out to be a lie. Good people lied more than bad people. Initially, people only tried to raise the status of lies to the Cosmic Swindle. Read only empty books and invisible texts! Yes, exactly so! All world intellectual history is simply a convenient reactionary ideology in infinity. The sum total of human thinking is the cave dictatorship of Plato par excellence plus the totalitarian materialism of Aristotle per se. No changes! Principal philosophical thought of all times and peoples is nothing but the hidden comfort hyper-reality of the eternal Dictate. Not free freedom, but the most enslaving dictatorship becomes the triumph and apotheosis of Dark Nihilism. Therefore NihillihiN [NN], first of all, surpasses Nihilism itself... as such! Any intellectual solidification of the word attempted by the -ism is inevitably destroyed. Social-ism, Capital-ism (?), Commun-ism, Marx-ism, Scientif-ism, Spiritual-ism, Fasc-ism, Totalitarian-ism, Conservat-ism, Traditional-ism, Postmodern-ism, Posthuman-ism, Acceleration-ism, Cyber-tech-fasc-ism etc. NihillihiN is an-NihillihiN-ation of all previous and next -isms. NihillihiN is more truthful than Nihil. NihillihiN is truer than Negation(s).
DM: In your social media posts, you pillage, collage and repurpose lots of different cultural icons and content, in a way reminiscent of Situationist "detournement." I see your posts as a life-affirming art form in themselves. I also find them incredibly funny but I don’t know how many people appreciate your sense of humour. Is that something you experience?
AZ: All anarchies of predatory Eros devour the order of obedient Chaos. The dragons of Horror slay the dragons of fear. The last joke of the jolly fellow Guy Debord was a shot to his own heart. But it wasn't the horrific laughter of a free Joker, but the tormented giggling of yet another disoriented 'radical subject.' The struggle against the system always ends with that same system as your coercive 'thing in itself.' My NihillihiN and T.D.A.S.D. (as independent entities outside of me) are trying to overcome this permanent 'revolutionary damnation.' I worship neither God, nor the Devil, nor chiefs (kings), nor myself. As Indian critics claim: I am an extremely rare form of free laughter. I free laugh, mocking the entire human race. Even my supposed 'pessimism' is not a reason for a death cult. My 'active pessimism' loves—to laugh bravely!—better than any merry fun. Only laughter is my anti-politics. Only kick in the ass is my anti-ideology. Only over-negation is my anti-philosophy, namely: the absolute negation/destruction of all regimes of fear, all systems of death.
Phase 4: Systems of Death (The Wild & The Violent)
SL: Your past work with wounded predators—tigers and raptors—seems to be a physical manifestation of your philosophy. Does the "predatory spirit" represent the only force capable of resisting the "Systems of the Death"?
AZ: I don't like the words 'spirit' and 'spiritual.' They conceal the musty scent of human religiosity. I trust only pure animal instincts, not 'spirit,' 'soul,' and 'mind.' Ultra-sensitive instincts are the ultimate Mystery! The true cosmic map of the most rebellious journeys and wildest adventures is our eternally strong and always free body. The wondrous flesh of the most mysterious Risk and ever-present, incessant Danger. What lies within the flesh is far more important than myths, stars and eternities. Not the brain, but muscles! Muscles are our best thoughts. Bones are more honest than reason. Shit is more majestic than the Absolute. The skull is everything! I have spent almost my entire life among birds of prey and other predators. This is a wild environment of utterly free and rebellious life force. I have saved many wounded birds from death; nursed them back to health and released them into the wild. And here is my conviction: The purest and most tender love is created from the most hidden predatory instincts. The purest instincts lie deeper than the Unconscious itself. Therefore the loneliness of animals and birds is lonelier than the loneliness of man. Animals understand freedom and revolution better than people. Animals & plants are the highest revolutionaries! Out of Nothing! From the beginning we stand with the animals in Absolute Revolution against any type of human system of Diktat. Only the freest, most sensitive, and strongest instincts are capable of truly resisting the most cunning, sophisticated, and ruthless 'systems of death.' Free and ultra-honest instincts against the deceitful 'spirit,' 'soul,' and 'mind' of Death.DM: Your films are very blunt and focused. I’ve never been convinced of the validity of "cinema" as an artform—it was compromised by commerce right from its inception. But film in its raw form can be powerful. Unfortunately, how do you get people to see it nowadays? It just gets lost in the clusterfuck of nonsense on the internet. Are your films shown at events? Performances?
AZ: I immediately recall the words of the merry fellow Guy Debord: 'The cinema, too, has to be destroyed' (laugh). My rebellious 'experimental films' have been screened primarily at various anarchist film festivals in India, the Netherlands, France, and America. Particularly significant was the screening in honor of Emma Goldman in New York, with the legendary Ben Morea and his 'Black Mask' (an influential anarchist art group based in New York City's Lower East Side). My cinema (Ⓐcinematograph) is a rebellious alchemy of eternally youthful freedom: libido + mortido + destrudo + orgondo = rebellious Eros. Here I experiment with the most daring, fearless, and unruly forces of life. In my revolutionary films, I resolutely strip away all 'superficial politics,' but reveal deeper and more profoundly the pure, instinctual biology of rebellion. I am interested only in the secrets of the most unruly and irreconcilable instincts. The main question is always the same: how to instinctively convince 'youth' to always side with free liberty and not with 'coercive dictatorship.' All revolutions of Chaos and bombs of blind Eros are always beforehand useless if they are followed by the same radical dictatorship and the same iron policy of Diktat. Yes! The main problem is that today you can't find anarchy in anarchy itself. Anarchy is controlled even better than order. Chaos is controlled even more well than law. Anarchism is no longer a panacea against the pathology of dictatorships. Moreover, anarchism itself is trying to become a dictatorship, namely the third, fourth, fifth waves of hyper-reactionary fascism. A little more artificial intelligence—and the future anarchy will become more totalitarian than Totalitarianism itself.
Phase 5: The Final Negation (The Absolute Escape Artist)
DM: Capitalism definitely seems to be at the end of the road. Do you think the sudden uprising of fascist and far right populist movements is an "extinction burst"?
AZ: NihillihiN, as a rebellious language of wild lightning bolts of risk, is much faster than the false 'high-speed strategy' of right-wing and/or left-wing accelerationism. Now and in the past they first and foremost reject 'democracy.' This is merely a clever trick, a cunning subterfuge of the same revolutionary or counter-revolutionary Diktat. As far back as 1939, the Nazis' conceptual strategy called 'Blitzkrieg' was in fact the hidden protoversion of future accelerationism. In fact, any new philosophical terminology is just a clever cover, sur-screen for an all-too-old-fascism, the roots of which are incredibly deep. Archaeo-fascism will always exist: sometimes covertly, sometimes openly. It is an extremely tenacious and overly evasive, super-aggressive force. I have studied this noumenal 'dark scum' for a long time. Only a completely different component of the most piercing freedom can reverse the so-called 'rightward turn' (a political shift towards reactionary ideologies) today, namely, completely annihilate the 'right historical vector.' Despite everything, against everyone and everything, I will be free under any regime.SL: To the Western mind, "anti-philosophy" sounds dangerous or even fascist. How do you explain that the total negation of systems is actually the ultimate defense of the innocent against autocratic fascism?
AZ: I am Evil's most implacable enemy. But I wouldn't take on the role of 'defender of good.' I simply managed to find the true key to dividing evil, namely: NihillihiN, or killing the evil philosophical enemy with his own weapons. What is anti-philosophy? What is NN? NihillihiN = aphilosophy, anti-philosophy, non-philosophy, without-philosophy etc. It is much more complex and simpler than any 'philosophical concept.' Now 'techno-cyber-constructiveness' thirsts for digital prisons. But instinctive rebellious destructiveness wants to destroy these prisons. Or, in other words, the systemic totalitarian creator (the overman + the will to power) will always build concentration camps. The free absolute destroyer (the Unique + Nothing to Power + Inverted Chaos) will always destroy these concentration camps. What is the 'cogitative problem' today? The hidden and open sly agents of the 'Dark Enlightenment' have replaced the independent creators of freedom. Everywhere! At the same time, they are constantly 'accelerating' in their hyper-occult techno-totalitarianism. All these numerous thinking 'reactionary bastards' are the offspring of the grievously old and vilely sick 'will to power.' It's time to get rid of them all.SL: You have moved past Nietzsche’s Übermensch. What exists on the other side of that transition? Is there a state of being that is entirely "un-governable" by any earthly power?
AZ: I am not an Übermensch. The Nietzschean Übermensch (read: fascist, national socialist) was a mistake. I despise the reactionary Übermensch. I hate any 'super-human passionaries' and all 'hyper-radical subjects.' These ardent extrasensory 'slaves of the system.' I don't believe in 'sur', 'super', or 'hyper.' I simply constantly experiment dangerously with my body. Like enigmatic Harry Houdini & undaunted George Hackenschmidt. The most risky tricks, rituals and initiations of the West and the East. A synthesis of the most extreme risk. Constantly throwing my flesh into the thick of street fights. A constant challenge to pain and death. Death-defying gestures of a still living and free body. On the other side of the Übermensch and his 'will to power,' there exists only—all-consuming!—Absolute Risk. Absolute Danger is the only real supernatural force and a completely uncontrollable state of being and/or non-being. I think, therefore I am—I fight!—through my own strong body against all 'Systems of Death' at once & simultaneously. I am the one who is entirely 'un-governable' (laughs).
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